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There are 4 comments on POV: The End of Indian Summer

  1. Or, is it racist to constantly push for the removal of every reference in our culture to Native Americans? I grew up in a tribal area where people were proud to be part of American culture in ways that honor their history and their existence. They loved that the UND sports teams were named after the Sioux. People up north believed an Indian Summer referenced a longer hunting and harvesting season for early Native Americans which in the freezing areas of the country was to be celebrated, and still is for northerners in those professions.

  2. You may be correct that it’s time to retire the term. However, the crux of your argument seems to be

    “Virtually all explanations, however, are rooted in assumed duplicity.”

    which is demonstrably false. The two most likely origins seem to be:

    1) European settlers first observed the meteorological phenomenon in a country largely populated by people they referred to as “Indians”

    2) The peoples already living in America (referred to as “Indians” by European settlers) introduced the concept to the Europeans.

    Neither suggests duplicity.

    When one uses a clearly false assertion at the center of their argument (even the link you cite in support of your assertion does not support it), the entire thing collapses.

    If I were your editor, I’d have rejected this article. Not because it’s not time to retire the term “Indian Summer”, but because you didn’t show your work, if indeed, there was any to show.

  3. I found this article after searching the term as it was noticed our news outlets never use the term anymore. I guessed for some reason it was probably now seen as offensive, like a lot of terms are these days.

    The irony is for us in the UK, the term “Indian summer” meant nothing more than an usually warm spell in the late summer to cheer us up before the darker days. It was only ever a positive remark, unlike terms like “Black list” which has also been ‘cancelled’ because it meant something negative, and the word black in ‘black list’ and similar terms suddenly referred to those with black skin, when it never did before.

    When we use the term Indian summer, at least in the UK, we didn’t think of native American’s or any person that might be consider Indian, we just thought of the country India and just assumed it was related to how their summers worked, and most of us would not even think that deeply about it, and “Indian summer” meant nothing more than a longer summer than normal.

    The fact people then try and claim and find reasons why it might be offensive, are what then makes it offensive.

    I suspect the UK reason for not using the term would be written differently and blamed on colonialism, where it would be the British living in parts of India and still sweating from the heat in October used the term “That’s an Indian summer for you”, as in never ending heat, and so it has negative conations because of that!

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