[As a foreword, this is a review of the mid-90s remastered version of And Then There Were Three. Unfortunately, Amazon's labeling for the different pressings for this CD isn't entirely clear- I think this one was labeled "original recording reissued".]
This album gets a lot of flak from Genesis fans, and not just the Phil Collins hating faction. While A Trick of the Tail seems to get a lot of praise from all corners, Wind and Wuthering and this album both seem to be surprisingly met with either indifference or outright hatred. And Then There Were Three understandably represents to some the moment when the band really turned its back on its storied prog-rock past, as it is the first Genesis album released after Steve Hackett left (the band had already lost Peter Gabriel 2 albums back). It also has the band's first bona fide pop hit in "Follow You Follow Me", which certainly doesn't endear it to prog purists.
But still, this is a really good record. The songs are shorter, and have less "theoretical complexity", but the arrangements are dense and lushly layered. I'd venture to say this is actually a more interesting sounding recording than the fairly straightforward mix of A Trick of the Tail, as there's often an almost panicked urgency in songs like the slightly progressive "Down and Out", "Deep in the Motherlode", and the Brothers Grimm inspired "The Lady Lies". The instruments often sound like they are stepping all over each other. The 1994 remaster at least adds a fair amount of clarity in the top end, as compared to the original CD pressing's muddy sound.
I'd also say that the band really started to master pop balladry on this album. Sure, "The Carpet Crawlers" was a wonderful bit of beauty back from the Gabriel days, and "Your Own Special Way" had an awkward, naïve charm I find hard to resist, but songs like the incredibly lush and layered "Undertow", the smoky bar ballad "Many Too Many", and the lovably maudlin "Follow You Follow Me" sound like a band that figured out how to make songs with broad appeal that actually sounded heartfelt. Occasionally, there are some slightly questionable lyrical ideas, such as the western-themed "Ballad of Big" and "Scenes From a Night's Dream", but the manic energy of a band trying to preserve its identity after the loss of 2 key members keeps those songs entertaining. The band still retains some of its prog-rock roots, notably in the 7 minute long "Burning Rope", and the aforementioned "Down and Out" and "The Lady Lies", but those songs are still more compact and direct than they might've been if recorded a few years earlier.
All in all, this album may be viewed by some as a compromise that doesn't succeed in capturing either side of the band, but its almost confused approach manages to actually make it quite interesting, and it's hard to argue with the quality of the songs.
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- Is Discontinued By Manufacturer : No
- Package Dimensions : 5.59 x 4.88 x 0.39 inches; 4.16 ounces
- Manufacturer : Charisma Virgin
- Item model number : 4010
- Date First Available : August 7, 2012
- Label : Charisma Virgin
- ASIN : B000092AJM
- Number of discs : 1
- Best Sellers Rank: #674,705 in CDs & Vinyl (See Top 100 in CDs & Vinyl)
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Reviewed in the United States on November 25, 2007
I'm going to step in and give a review of the Super Audio version of this recording. It's a nice package that restores the original LP artwork to the CD booklet, which wasn't done in all previous versions. The box includes a CD/SACD multichannel disc as well as a video disc containing a multichannel DVD Audio version of the album plus some video extras in the North American NTSC format. The 2007 interviews with the band members are quite revealing, including some comments from Steve Hackett on why the four became three.
At least they had a sense of humor about it! At the time of its release, And Then There Were Three got a fair amount of criticism. Even some fans said the album took few risks, with the L.A. Times commenting that the band could have "written this stuff in their sleep."
But this record in particular had a strange effect on listeners, which I recall from reading letters in music magazines at the time. The sound producer David Hentschel (he previously engineered Elton John's Goodbye Yellow Brick Road) achieved was dense, thick as London fog, with a narrow stereo stage producing a late '70's version of the old "wall o' sound." All that melody and rhythm packed into 50-plus minutes was exhausting to listen to, with the catchy, stripped-down "Follow You, Follow Me" at the end serving as a light dessert. Looking back, it's probable that this recording helped launch later groups like Lush and Cocteau Twins that favored layered sonics.
Nick Davis' multichannel remix opens up the Hentschel mix considerably. This new version loses just a little of the recording's original character, but much is gained as the music becomes both grander and more intimate. Heard through a multichannel system, Phil Collins' voice sounds more out front and clear. I thought it might be too bright at first listen, but I soon came to like the effect. Of course, your CD player factors in this.
With the individual instruments heard more clearly, songs like "Down and Out," the band's musings on the cutthroat nature of the record business, gain considerable power. And we can finally hear Genesis' songs about the American West in their wide-screen glory as Mike Rutherford's guitar on "Deep in the Motherload" just comes storming out of the sound field. "Ballad of Big" really sounds big now as Jim and his men become legends the hard way.
For me, the most appealing songs on And Then... Three are the ones that use dynamics to reflect their characters' shifting emotional states. "Burning Rope" does this well, and the recording allows Tony Banks' unusual and affecting keyboard sounds to be heard with greater depth and clarity. He does his own synthesizer programming, unlike many bands of the era, and obviously takes time to develop particular sounds that suit the songs.
I always thought that the song "Say It's Alright, Joe" was kind of a throwaway. In multichannel sound, you feel a lot closer to the story. You might be in the barroom with Joe and his down-on-his-luck customer as Tony tinkles the piano keys. As the old guy slips into a reverie, the song takes on a thin, compressed sound. "The sky was in ruins and the lights were all shining on me and on you..." I didn't hear that effect on the original mix.
Hearing this SACD on my budget Sony SACD player and Harman Kardon stereo allowed me to hear this recording in a new way. I'm not that interested in going back to David Hentschel's version again, which is really all you can ask of a 21st century remix.
At least they had a sense of humor about it! At the time of its release, And Then There Were Three got a fair amount of criticism. Even some fans said the album took few risks, with the L.A. Times commenting that the band could have "written this stuff in their sleep."
But this record in particular had a strange effect on listeners, which I recall from reading letters in music magazines at the time. The sound producer David Hentschel (he previously engineered Elton John's Goodbye Yellow Brick Road) achieved was dense, thick as London fog, with a narrow stereo stage producing a late '70's version of the old "wall o' sound." All that melody and rhythm packed into 50-plus minutes was exhausting to listen to, with the catchy, stripped-down "Follow You, Follow Me" at the end serving as a light dessert. Looking back, it's probable that this recording helped launch later groups like Lush and Cocteau Twins that favored layered sonics.
Nick Davis' multichannel remix opens up the Hentschel mix considerably. This new version loses just a little of the recording's original character, but much is gained as the music becomes both grander and more intimate. Heard through a multichannel system, Phil Collins' voice sounds more out front and clear. I thought it might be too bright at first listen, but I soon came to like the effect. Of course, your CD player factors in this.
With the individual instruments heard more clearly, songs like "Down and Out," the band's musings on the cutthroat nature of the record business, gain considerable power. And we can finally hear Genesis' songs about the American West in their wide-screen glory as Mike Rutherford's guitar on "Deep in the Motherload" just comes storming out of the sound field. "Ballad of Big" really sounds big now as Jim and his men become legends the hard way.
For me, the most appealing songs on And Then... Three are the ones that use dynamics to reflect their characters' shifting emotional states. "Burning Rope" does this well, and the recording allows Tony Banks' unusual and affecting keyboard sounds to be heard with greater depth and clarity. He does his own synthesizer programming, unlike many bands of the era, and obviously takes time to develop particular sounds that suit the songs.
I always thought that the song "Say It's Alright, Joe" was kind of a throwaway. In multichannel sound, you feel a lot closer to the story. You might be in the barroom with Joe and his down-on-his-luck customer as Tony tinkles the piano keys. As the old guy slips into a reverie, the song takes on a thin, compressed sound. "The sky was in ruins and the lights were all shining on me and on you..." I didn't hear that effect on the original mix.
Hearing this SACD on my budget Sony SACD player and Harman Kardon stereo allowed me to hear this recording in a new way. I'm not that interested in going back to David Hentschel's version again, which is really all you can ask of a 21st century remix.
Reviewed in the United States on January 19, 2018
This was a gift for my son for Christmas. I am not a particular fan of later Genesis, or Phil Collins when he went Pop and churned out sappy, craptastic top 40 music, I am more Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, But Trick of TheTail and Nursery Crymes are acceptable lol.
The reason I bought this, the kids’ dad went to every Genesis concert that hit St Louis or Chicago, for years. I of course went too. This tour, Then There Were Three, in 1978, they were at Kiel Auditorium in St Louis in April of 1978. My son was born May 1978. This was my son’s very first concert - I was about 3-4 weeks from delivery. Every time they hit the giant Chinese gong, Frank would go all Cirque De Soleil in my belly, somersaulting, kicking and generally making himself known. People behind and beside us could see him! I had more strange hands on my belly than I could count lol.
I bought him this as a memento of his first concert EVER. He loves the story, and tells it often, as he is a huge rock fan, from Rage Against The Machine to Alice Cooper to Tool and more. He is sure this started his budding inner rock music lover on its way.
The reason I bought this, the kids’ dad went to every Genesis concert that hit St Louis or Chicago, for years. I of course went too. This tour, Then There Were Three, in 1978, they were at Kiel Auditorium in St Louis in April of 1978. My son was born May 1978. This was my son’s very first concert - I was about 3-4 weeks from delivery. Every time they hit the giant Chinese gong, Frank would go all Cirque De Soleil in my belly, somersaulting, kicking and generally making himself known. People behind and beside us could see him! I had more strange hands on my belly than I could count lol.
I bought him this as a memento of his first concert EVER. He loves the story, and tells it often, as he is a huge rock fan, from Rage Against The Machine to Alice Cooper to Tool and more. He is sure this started his budding inner rock music lover on its way.
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Cindy Tuba-fitzgerald
5.0 out of 5 stars
One of the classics!
Reviewed in Canada on April 12, 2024
I never get tired of listening to this album. Classic music that never gets old by an iconic, ground breaking band during the golden age of Rock! Love it!
Paolo sirtoli
5.0 out of 5 stars
Altro grande tassello
Reviewed in Italy on April 15, 2024
Questo CD del 1978 è bellissimo qui appare di più la tastiera di Tony Banksy insieme alla voce e batteria di Phil Collins, insieme ai riff chitarristici di Mike rutherford.che trio e che disco.per tutti consigliatissimo
Didier Gonet
5.0 out of 5 stars
Excellente surprise
Reviewed in France on February 9, 2024
J'ai refusé en son temps d'acheter les albums sans Gabriel. Je me suis aperçu qu'il y avait une période intermédiaire avant l'explosion de la prétention et de l'ego de Collins avec quelques albums, dont celui ci.
marti
5.0 out of 5 stars
que coincida el producto con lo pedido
Reviewed in Spain on January 6, 2024
todo correcto
Furs Oleg
5.0 out of 5 stars
Livraison a été rapide
Reviewed in Belgium on October 26, 2023
Très bel album pour pas trop cher.
Furs Oleg
Reviewed in Belgium on October 26, 2023
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