Eriosyce today

amiga56 · Post by **amiga56** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:19 pm

Hello

I have this plant who is name 'subgibbosa wagenknechtii' but the flower are not 'Neoporteria' flowers

I anyone know the real name ?

Thank you

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:28 pm

Could be Pyrrhocactus wagenknechtii (Ritter)
or Neochilenia wagenknechtii (Backeberg)

which is
Eriosyce heinrichiana ssp. intermedia var. intermedia (Kattermann)
Eriosyce heinrichiana (Ferryman)
The flowers with the narrow base would be a match for heinrichiana.
Eriosyce_heinrichiana_FK81

amiga56 · Post by **amiga56** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:49 am

Thank you very much

I think the previous owner of this plant may have replaced Pyrrhocactus wagneknechtii by E subgibbosa wagenknechtii

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:34 pm

Maybe the previous owner did change the name on the label. The plant and flower also matches Eriosyce curvispina v. tuberisulcata though.

Eriosyce_curvispina_v_tuberisulcata (Punitaqui)

Eriosyce_curvispina_v_tuberisulcata (Punitaqui)

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:44 pm

Some more Eriosyce flowers (some of them not identified properly but still nice)
Eriosyce spec. aff. calderana

Eriosyce heinrichiana ssp. intermedia (Nc. jussieui)

E.spec. aff. crispa /eriosycoides

E.spec. aff. paucicostata (Nc. fobeana)

E.paucicostata or E.confinis
plant A

plant B

Post by **CoronaCactus** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:49 pm

Looking good!
Some dark red bodies, lots of sun

iann · Post by **iann** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:31 pm

I thought Neochilenia fobeana was a synonym of Eriosyce taltalensis ssp taltalensis?

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:54 am

The problem is that you never know what you have when growing a Neochilenia fobeana.
I didn´t find it listed in the NCL.
Kattermann listed it under : Names with doughtful application, posssibly referable to E. talt. ssp. paucicostata.
Ritter was not sure which plant was described under Nc. fobeana by Backeberg.
Backeberg described Nc. fobeana without type locality.

iann · Post by **iann** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:15 am

... and everything in cultivation as N. fobeana is at least a couple of generations descended from a plant found in a box in someone's attic

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:43 pm

Some new flowers emerged from buds

Post by **CoronaCactus** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:08 pm

Wow, nice!
The flowers seem quite large. Maybe it's just the plant to flower size ratio?

iann · Post by **iann** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:00 pm

My E. esmeraldana has pretty big flowers. The main head is about 5cm (two inches) across and the flowers are bigger. Here it is last summer with a single flower.

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:06 am

Here are some other Thelocephala type Eriosyce which flowered in the last couple of days.The diameter of the plant bodies are about 3-4 cm.(1-1.5 inch)

Eriosyce_krausii plant A

Eriosyce_krausii_(Th._malleolata)plant B

Eriosyce_aerocarpa_AW105

Eriosyce_aerocarpa_FK63 . The porrect and long bristles indicate E. aerocarpa already.

Eriosyce_napina_v_duripulpa_RMF 277. The bud looks different than aerocarpa.

[img]http:600:450]http://www.cactiguide.com/forum/userpix ... lein_1.jpg[/img]

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:06 pm

Some Eriosyce heinrichiana have come into bloom
Eriosyce_heinrichiana__(Nc._deherdtiana)

Eriosyce_heinrichiana_WK_769_(Nc_trapichensis)

Eriosyce_heinrichiana_FK81_II

Eriosyce_heinrichiana_FK177

Post by **CoronaCactus** » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:56 pm

Awesome!
I haven't come across E. esmeraldana yet. Or if I did I mistook it for E. occulta

How can I tell these apart?

Love the bud on FK63! In most, if not all Cacti, the buds are just as cool as the flowers. In some cases cooler!